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8th Battalion (90th Winnipeg Rifles) organized in Valcartier Camp in September 1914 initially composed of recruits from Winnipeg and from the 96th Lake Superior Regt. of the Active Militia. Commanded by Lieutenant-Colonel Louis J. Lipsett. Embarked Quebec City 1 October 1914 aboard FRANCONIA, and later disembarked in England on 14 October 1914 with a strength of 47 officers, 1106 other ranks and later disembarked in France 13 February 1915 with the 1st Canadian Division, 2nd Canadian Infantry Brigade, and later reinforced by 18th Canadian Reserve Battalion.

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8th Battalion Stonehenge. MIKAN No. 3194235

Returned to England 23 March 1914. Disembarked in Canada 4 May 1919. Demobilized 8 May 1919. Disbanded by General Order 149 of 15 September 1920. No colours. Mascot: bear (GAQ 11-22). Brass band: “Pork, beans and hard tack”. Used instruments of 125th Battalion. Perpetuated by The Royal Winnipeg Rifles.

  • Private Patrick Riel in the Great War

    Private Patrick Riel in the Great War

    Private Patrick Riel the nephew of Louis Riel. No way! Another accomplished sniper of the the Canadian Corps. Way!

    Private Patrick Riel born 17 March 17 1876
    Private Patrick Riel born 17 March 1876

    Louis Riel

    Louis Riel, Métis leader, founder of Manitoba, central figure in the Red River and North-West resistances died 16 November 1885 in Regina, Saskatchewan. Riel led two Métis governments, central in bringing Manitoba into Confederation.

    Louis Riel Louis Riel, circa 1873. (courtesy Provincial Archives of Manitoba/N-5733)
    Louis Riel
    Louis Riel, circa 1873.
    (courtesy Provincial Archives of Manitoba/N-5733)

    Executed for high treason for his role in the resistance to Canadian encroachment on Métis lands. Riel initially dismissed as a rebel by Canadian historians, although many now sympathize with Riel as a Métis leader who fought to protect his people from the Canadian government.

    Propaganda

    How did Patrick Riel become associated with Louis Riel? The story similar to that of the Crucified Canadian.

    Private Patrick Riel 1295 newspaper clipping
    Press Clipping – The Globe, Toronto Saturday January 22 1916

    During the Great War, it has been written Canadians earned a reputation for their savagery. This folklore may have been encouraged by the unfounded story of the Crucified Canadian. Whether true or not, war diaries and personal accounts do record this fact. When men entered the Ypres Salient for the first time, they were shown the spot where the alleged atrocity had taken place.

    Library and Archives Canada

    Today, many sources still push the claim Patrick Riel related to the famous Métis leader Louis Riel.

    Patrick Riel (1876–1916) was a 39-year-old widower who attested in the 8th Battalion in August 1914. He was given Regimental No. 1295, which shows that he was one of the very first people to join up at the outbreak of the war. We can tell that he was illiterate because instead of signing his name on his attestation paper, he marked it with an “X.” Riel was a member of a First Nation in Canada.

    He came from Maniwaki, Quebec, a town on the Gatineau River north of Ottawa, which adjoins the lands of the Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg First Nation, an Algonquin band. Riel was a highly successful sniper on the Western Front before dying in January 1916 from wounds sustained in an artillery attack. He left two daughters. Riel was among the many First Nations people who contributed significantly to Canada’s war effort, despite facing discrimination at home. In this respect, Private Riel was doubly significant, being a descendant of the iconic Métis leader Louis Riel, who had been hanged for treason in 1885.

    Library and Archives Canada
    MIKAN No. 3386223
    An International Rifle Match – Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans and Imperials. June, 1916. Sharpshooters appear to be mostly armed with Short Model Lee-Enfield service rifles. A spotter’s scope is set up to view the results. MIKAN No. 3386223

    An International Rifle Match – Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans and Imperials. June, 1916. Sharpshooters appear to be mostly armed with Short Model Lee-Enfield service rifles. A spotter’s scope is set up to view the results.

    Snipers adjusting rifle sights. June 1916. Lt.-Gen. Arthur Currie back to camera. MIKAN No. 3404475

    The Sniper

    A new documentary, The Sniper, explores the life of a Métis sniper named Patrick Riel, and reveals some truth (lies in bold).

    Patrick Riel was born in Quebec and had three daughters with his wife who died in childbirth, and left them in the care of his community and came to Thunder Bay to work in Shabaqua, Ont. When the war broke out the Winnipeg Rifles were one of the first units to be called to serve.

    Harpelle said because Patrick Riel enlisted in Thunder Bay, he was ultimately recorded as a casualty from Thunder Bay.

    Jasmine Kabatay, an Anishinaabe freelance journalist from Seine River First Nation in northwestern Ontario. 

    We know Patrick enlisted in Valcartier, Quebec.

    3405982
    Rest billets (8th Infantry Battalion (90th Winnipeg Rifles)). May, 1916. MIKAN No. 3405982

    Ron Harpelle teaches history at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, and is a director of the film. He said Patrick Riel and Louis Riel were related, but only distantly.

    Jasmine Kabatay

    5th Degree Cousin

    The truth? Perhaps very distantly. A fifth-degree cousin.

    Patrick Riel was Louis Riel’s 5th degree cousin.

    Jean-Baptiste RIEL-LIRLANDE

    Jacques-Michel RIEL-LIRLANDE Jean-Baptiste RIEL-LIRLANDE

    Jean-Baptiste RIEL-LIRLANDE Nicolas RIEL

    Jean-Baptiste RIEL-LIRLANDE Étienne RIEL

    Jean-Baptiste RIEL Maxime-Émilien RIEL

    Louis RIEL Joseph RIEL

    Louis-David RIEL Patrick-Joseph RIEL

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    Louis-David RIEL

    Courtesy : Dominique Ritchot

    Lord Beaverbrook

    The originator of the ‘story’ perhaps Max Aitken (also known as Lord Beaverbrook) and such lesser-known figures as Walter Gordon and Reverend R G McBeth propagated myths about Patrick Riel. By 1917, they had turned Patrick Riel into a heroic Métis sharpshooter and a nephew of Louis Riel. The problem is that Patrick Riel not a member of the Métis Nation.

    MIKAN No. 3212342
    Lord Beaverbrook is in uniform, with the honourary rank of Lt. Col. MIKAN No. 3212342

    This is the inscription engraved on a silver plate on the butt of a rifle which is on exhibition in the window of the British Columbia building in London, England. Capt. M. A. Fiset, of the 36th Field Battery, sends this information: “No one, I am sure, in London,” he writes, “understood better than I all that this inscription meant. It is too eloquent to need the addition of any words. I beg, however, that the press be good enough to convey to the Riel family and all the Métis nation my personal grief and also my profound admiration for this hero of whom the Métis nation at large must be proud.”

    Enlistment of Private Patrick Riel

    Private Patrick Riel born 17 March 1876 to Joseph and Louise Latendresse. Patrick had married Menonik (Veronique) Jacko in 1895 at Baskatong. They had four children between 1896 and 1907.

    Now widowed, Private Patrick Riel 1295 attested 27 August 1914 in Valcartier, Quebec with the 1st Battalion, 1st Brigade. Eventually, Patrick comes to serve with the 8th (Winnipeg Rifles) Battalion, yet most erroneous sources have him immediately enlisting with the 8th Battalion.

    Kitigan Zibi (Désert River)

    Next of kin his daughter Catherine (Katie) Riel, of Désert River, Quebec. Mr Peter Jones of Désert River, Katie’s guardian. Patrick stood 5′, 11″ tall, with dark complexion, brown eyes and black hair, thirty-eight years of age at this time.

    AC# 001.038: Frederick Johnson photograph collection
    Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg First Nation reserve circa 1928-1929 AC# 001.038: Frederick Johnson photograph collection

    Who is Métis?

    The Métis Nation of Ontario and affiliated organizations use the following terms to define Métis.

    • Métis means a person who self-identifies as Métis, is of historic Métis Nation Ancestry, is distinct from other Aboriginal Peoples and is accepted by the Métis Nation.
    • “Historic Métis Nation” means the Aboriginal people then known as Métis or Half-Breeds who resided in Historic Métis Nation Homeland;
    • “Historic Métis Nation Homeland” means the area of land in west central North America used and occupied as the traditional territory of the Métis or Half-Breeds as they were then known;
    • “Métis Nation” means the Aboriginal people descended from the Historic Métis Nation, which is now comprised of all Métis Nation citizens and is one of the “aboriginal peoples of Canada” within s.35 of the Constitution Act of 1982

    anishinabeg

    Algonquin people call themselves anishinabeg, which carries both the general meaning of “human being”, and the specific meaning of “real (i.e. Indian) people”.

    Compared to First Nations in most other parts of Canada, the ten Algonquin communities have very little reserve land. By far the largest parcel the River Desert Reserve belonging to the
    Kitigan Zibi Algonquins. Consisting of approximately 43,000 acres, located near Maniwaki, Quebec.

    MIKAN No. 3404473

    Sniper officers in training (Mont-des-Cats, France). June, 1916. The Canadian divisions had their own sniper training school located at Mont des Cats.

    Service of Patrick Riel

    Private Patrick Riel Absent from Parade, deprived of 15 Days Pay, 4 June 1915. On 6 November 1915, Private Patrick Riel granted leave, and later returned to duty on 13 November 1915.

    1916-June 3404474 O-38 PA-000028 Sniping instruction. June, 1916. A captain appears to be instructing a soldier, wearing a "Gor Blimey" style cap in the the use of a mechanism to fire rifles indirectly over the parapet.
    MIKAN No. 3404474

    Sniping instruction. June, 1916. A captain appears to be instructing a soldier, wearing a “Gor Blimey” style cap in the the use of a mechanism to fire rifles indirectly over the parapet.

    In letters sent to friends here by his trench chum, another half-breed, formerly a student at the Qu’Appelle Industrial School, Riel is said to have disregarded potting Germans who were in the trenches. His chief work was to locate snipers from the German side and bring them down.

    3405977
    Scouts and snipers (8th Infantry Battalion (90th Winnipeg Rifles)). June, 1916. Snipers appear to be armed mostly with commercial hunting rifles with scopes.Just west of Abele, Belgium. MIKAN No. 3405977

    Crack shot

    One story of his keen sight and ability to shoot straight is told when in late April, 1915, he brought down two German snipers within five minutes at a distance of about seven hundred yards. There were men and officers falling regularly on the Canadian side in a certain section of the trench. Riel was watching this spot where the shots came from and decided that snipers were at work. About seven hundred yards away he spied the tree and watched it for a minute, then deliberately aiming, fired and brought down the sniper, who was in one of the lower branches.

    Munster Fusiliers

    Just as soon as he had scratched another mark on his trusty rifle, he levelled again and from the top of the tree another enemy sniper fell to the ground. The incident was noticed by the officers and duly reported in dispatches. That night the officers looked for Riel, but he could not be found. He had joined a raiding party of the Munster Fusiliers and was out having his little time. The following morning he reported and proudly pointed to five additional marks on his rifle.

    Private Patrick Riel 1295
    Private Patrick Riel 1295

    Private Patrick Riel Killed in Action

    Patrick killed in action by splinter of shell, 14 January 1916.

    This rifle was used by Sniper No. 1295, Pte. P. Riel (nephew of Louis Riel, of the Riel rebellion), 8th Battalion (90th Rifles), 1st Canadian Division, B.E.F. With it he accounted for 30 Germans, between March, 1915, and January 15, 1916, when he was killed by a shell at Anton’s Farm, France, 128, near Messines.

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    The sniper is sighting along a Ross service rifle, 22 June 1916 MIKAN No. 3520927

    Anton’s Farm

    Infantry of the 1st Canadian Division having a meal in the trenches at Ploegsteert, 29th March 1916. Brooks, Ernest (Lieutenant) (Photographer) © IWM Q 442. Likely 5th Battalion, anton's Farm, north of Ploegsteert Wood
    Infantry of the 1st Canadian Division having a meal in the trenches at Ploegsteert, 29th March 1916. Brooks, Ernest (Lieutenant) (Photographer) © IWM Q 442. Likely 5th Battalion, Anton’s Farm, north of Ploegsteert Wood. © IWM Q 442

    “Am reminded as I write of a chance meeting Billy Hill, of A coy, and I had with Paddy Riel, 8th Battalion sniper of Indian descent, in the trenches at Plugstreet in 1915. He told us how he had seen a German private peering over the trench that morning. The man presented a good target but there was something about his attitude which prompted Paddy to believe that he was being forced to show himself, so he refrained from shooting.

    A Canadian sniper in Ploegsteert, March 1916

    Paddy’s hunch proved correct, for as soon as the private disappeared from view, the head and shoulders of a German officer appeared – the latter was apparently satisfied that he could now look around in safety. This was what Paddy was waiting for and, after he had pulled the trigger, he had the satisfaction of being able to cut another notch in the butt of his rifle. Paddy Riel will do no more sniping for he lies under the poppies now. If the shades of Paddy and his uncle should meet – his uncle Louis Riel who was hanged at Regina after leading the ill-fated revolt of the half breeds in ’85, the meeting should prove an interesting one.”

    Ploegsteert Wood

    A Vertical aerial photograph of the trenches in Ploegsteert Wood in Belgium, taken on 24 March 1917.

    © IWM Q 79202A Vertical aerial photograph of the trenches in Ploegsteert Wood in Belgium, taken on 24 March 1917
    © IWM Q 79202A Vertical aerial photograph of the trenches in Ploegsteert Wood in Belgium, taken on 24 March 1917

    The same area in 2015.

    Ploegsteert Wood
    Ploegsteert Wood in 2015

    Canadian troops engaged in a rat hunt at Ploegsteert Wood near Ypres during March 1916.

    © IWM Q 448 Canadian troops engaged in a rat hunt at Ploegsteert Wood near Ypres during March 1916
    Canadian troops engaged in a rat hunt at Ploegsteert Wood near Ypres during March 1916. © IWM Q 448

    Rosenberg Chateau Military Cemetery

    Patrick initially buried at Rosenberg Chateau Military Cemetery, used by fighting units from November 1914 to August 1916. The extension begun in May 1916 and used until March 1918.

    Red Lodge

    Together, the cemetery and extension sometimes referred to as ‘Red Lodge’. Patrick’s body remained here until 1930, when the lawn owner requested the return of his property.

    Villa Roozenberg, Ploegsteert Wood. Destroyed by fire, 14 November 1914
    Villa Roozenberg, Ploegsteert Wood. Destroyed by fire, 14 November 1914 © IWM Q 56165

    Pte Patrick Riel’s remains exhumed from Rosenberg Chateau 28.T.18.d.35.65 on 4 February 1930 and placed in Berks Cemetery Extension, 28.U.19.b.2.5.

    Berks Cemetery Extension

    Hyde Park Corner was a road junction to the north of Ploegsteert Wood. Hill 63 to the north-west and nearby the ‘Catacombs’, deep shelters capable of holding two battalions, used from November 1916 onwards.

    Private Patrick Riel CEFRG 9 August 2019
    Private Patrick Riel CEFRG 9 August 2019

    HYDE PARK CORNER (ROYAL BERKS) CEMETERY

    HYDE PARK CORNER (ROYAL BERKS) CEMETERY begun in April 1915 by the 1st/4th Royal Berkshire Regiment and used at intervals until November 1917. The cemetery contains 83 Commonwealth burials of the Great War and four German war graves.

    Chateau et Chapelle de la Hutte
    Chateau et Chapelle de la Hutte

    BERKS CEMETERY EXTENSION

    BERKS CEMETERY EXTENSION is separated from Hyde Park Corner Cemetery by a road. The extension begun in June 1916 and used continuously until September 1917. At the Armistice, the extension comprised Plot I only, but Plots II and III added in 1930 when graves brought in from Rosenberg Chateau Military Cemetery and Extension, about 1 kilometre to the north-west, when it was established that these sites could not be acquired in perpetuity. The land owner, as was his right, requested the graves be removed.

    The chateau today - photo courtesy Johan Ryheul
    The chateau today – photo courtesy Johan Ryheul

    PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

    Berks Cemetery Extension now contains 876 Great War burials. Within Berks Cemetery Extension stands the PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL, commemorating more than 11,000 Commonwealth servicemen who died in this sector during the Great War and have no known grave.

    The original grave of 1836 Private (Pte) Robert Alexander Gerdts, 39th Battalion, in Chateau Rosenberg Military Cemetery, Belgium
    The original grave of 1836 Private (Pte) Robert Alexander Gerdts, 39th Battalion, in Chateau Rosenberg Military Cemetery, Belgium

    The memorial serves the area from the line Caestre-Dranoutre-Warneton to the north, to Haverskerque-Estaires-Fournes to the south, including the towns of Hazebrouck, Merville, Bailleul and Armentieres, the Forest of Nieppe, and Ploegsteert Wood.

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